Many people who are tormented by internal critical voices would like to eliminate them altogether, because they so often make them feel bad, and interfere with their living in other ways. For thousands of years Buddhism and a number of other spiritual traditions have advocated silencing the internal “chattering monkey” as a path to reaching enlightenment or nirvana. In the 60s and 70s this prescription was a key part of many “new age” programs that have been very popular, such as Ram Dass’ 1970s book, Remember, Be Here Now, and Fritz Perls’ Gestalt Therapy based on awareness of the “here and now.” In its newest bottle this old wine has been called “mindfulness.”
As I write this, Eckhart Tolle is making immense amounts of money promoting this ancient idea in his book A New Earth, in his interview series of the same name with Oprah Winfrey, and in many other audio books and products. An indication of the extent of this industry is that an Amazon Search for Eckhart Tolle turned up 809 products!
What would it be like to have no internal voices at all? And what would the consequences of this be? Fortunately, we have a coherent first-person account of what it is like. In 1996, Jill Bolte Taylor, a neuroanatomist who studied the brain, had a massive stroke when a blood vessel exploded in her left hemisphere, forming a large clot that pressed on her language area, eventually shutting it down altogether. Even though Taylor was a brain scientist, she didn’t immediately recognize what was happening to her. As her language and other left hemisphere functions gradually shut down, she intermittently entered a state that she described as “euphoria,” “nirvana,” and “La La Land,” in which she became less and less able to function. A dozen years later, after her hospitalization and recovery, she described her experience in a fascinating talk that you can view online at: http://www.ted.com/talks/view/id/229
The following excerpts are from a transcript of that talk, which can also be found online at: http://blog.ted.com/2008/03/jill_bolte_tayl.php#more
“And I’m asking myself, ‘What is wrong with me; what is going on?’ And in that moment, my brain chatter, my left hemisphere brain chatter went totally silent. Just like someone took a remote control and pushed the mute button and—total silence.
“And at first I was shocked to find myself inside of a silent mind. But then I was immediately captivated by the magnificence of energy around me. And because I could no longer identify the boundaries of my body, I felt enormous and expansive. I felt at one with all the energy that was, and it was beautiful there.
“Then all of a sudden my left hemisphere comes back online and it says to me, ‘Hey! we got a problem, we got a problem, we gotta get some help.’ So it’s like, ‘OK, OK, I got a problem,’ but then I immediately drifted right back out into the consciousness, and I affectionately referred to this space as ‘La La Land.’ But it was beautiful there. Imagine what it would be like to be totally disconnected from your brain chatter that connects you to the external world. So here I am in this space and any stress related to my job—it was gone. And I felt lighter in my body. And imagine all of the relationships in the external world and the many stressors related to any of those—they were gone. I felt a sense of peacefulness. And imagine what it would feel like to lose 37 years of emotional baggage! I felt euphoria. Euphoria was beautiful—and then my left hemisphere comes online and it says ‘Hey! You’ve got to pay attention, we’ve got to get help.’ . . .
“So I gotta call help, I gotta call work. I couldn’t remember the number at work, so I remembered, in my office I had a business card with my number on it. So I go in my business room, I pull out a three-inch stack of business cards. And I’m looking at the card on top, and even though I could see clearly in my mind’s eye what my business card looked like, I couldn’t tell if this was my card or not, because all I could see were pixels. And the pixels of the words blended with the pixels of the background and the pixels of the symbols, and I just couldn’t tell. And I would wait for what I call a wave of clarity. And in that moment, I would be able to reattach to normal reality and I could tell, ‘That’s not the card; that’s not the card; that’s not the card.’ It took me 45 minutes to get one inch down inside of that stack of cards.
“In the meantime, for 45 minutes the hemorrhage is getting bigger in my left hemisphere. I do not understand numbers, I do not understand the telephone, but it’s the only plan I have. So I take the phone pad and I put it right here, I’d take the business card, I’d put it right here, and I’m matching the shape of the squiggles on the card to the shape of the squiggles on the phone pad. But then I would drift back out into La La Land, and not remember when I come back if I’d already dialed those numbers.
“So I had to wield my paralyzed arm like a stump, and cover the numbers as I went along and pushed them, so that as I would come back to normal reality I’d be able to tell, “Yes, I’ve already dialed that number.” Eventually the whole number gets dialed, and I’m listening to the phone, and my colleague picks up the phone and he says to me, ‘Whoo woo wooo woo woo.’ And I think to myself, ‘Oh my gosh, he sounds like a golden retriever!’ And so I say to him, clear in my mind, I say to him, ‘This is Jill! I need help!’ And what comes out of my voice is, ‘Whoo woo wooo woo woo.’ I’m thinking, ‘Oh my gosh, I sound like a golden retriever!’ So I couldn’t know—I didn’t know that I couldn’t speak or understand language until I tried.”
Notice that Taylor’s report shows how useful her internal voice was in understanding what was happening to her, and in urging her to get help. From “And I’m asking myself, ‘What is wrong with me; what is going on?’ ” to “Oh my gosh, I sound like a golden retriever!” her internal voice directed her attention in ways that probably saved her life.
Taylor’s report of euphoria and oneness is quite similar to the reports of some people who have used hallucinogenic drugs. Others have had similar experiences during epileptic seizures and other unique situations such as sensory deprivation tanks. Perhaps more interesting, the same kind of experience can be created without requiring a stroke, drugs, or extreme environments.
In an early NLP workshop, a man who had read far too many books about the importance of silencing your inner dialogue used his skills to do exactly that. For about an hour he experienced total internal silence—and total catatonic immobility. After he returned from this experiment, some exploration revealed that all his behavior began with some kind of direction from an internal voice, saying something like, “What shall I do next?” or “What’s most important now?” Without this voice, he was immobilized; he was “in the here and now” all right—just as many Alzheimer’s patients are—but he couldn’t get anywhere else, and he was totally incapacitated.
So while silencing your internal voices may be an interesting experiment, it has very significant practical drawbacks. Your mind may sometimes be a “chattering monkey” that criticizes and torments you, but at most other times it is a very valuable resource, one that probably no other animal has. Sometimes it just helps you remember addresses or phone numbers—an ordinary skill that can be easily “taken for granted,” until it’s no longer there! As Taylor discovered, this simple function can sometimes be very, very important. At other times a pair of internal voices might engage in a very useful discussion about the merits of what restaurant to go to, which car to buy, or whether to get married or not. Without those internal voices, you would be as helpless as Taylor was.
If we look a bit more closely at those who advocate silencing internal dialogue, we find some very interesting contradictions. One is that I haven’t heard of a single one of them who has volunteered to have their language area surgically incapacitated so that they could have Taylor’s experience. If nirvana is half as splendid as Tolle and others say, surely that would be a small price to pay.
One of Eckhart Tolle’s other books is titled, Silence Speaks, which indicates that for Tolle even silence has a voice! But more to the point, he couldn’t have created all those written books and audio CDs if he didn’t have an internal voice that he advocates evading or avoiding!
In simplified form, Tolle is saying, in words—and over and over again, “Words are useless; get rid of them.” If his statement were true, then it would be meaningless, because that statement is only a string of “useless” words, a logical paradox. Ram Dass’ book with the title, Remember, Be Here Now, is also an instruction with the same paradoxical structure—a rather large set of words that tells us to ignore words. Many people think that paradox is only of interest to philosophers and mathematicians, but it also occurs in many problems in everyday life that can have significant and troublesome consequences. In this case it results in millions of people spending tens of millions of dollars in a futile quest—using words (printed or spoken) to try to get rid of words.
Chimpanzees don’t have words (except for those who have been taught a few by psychologists) but most people don’t realize that if they got rid of words, they would become as limited as chimpanzees are. Tolle and others who advocate eliminating internal voices really should advertise it as a way to attain “chimpanzee consciousness,” “stroke consciousness,” or “Alzheimer’s consciousness”—and to be congruent they should do this without using any words! But somehow words like “enlightenment,” “the power of now,” “nirvana,” “unconditioned mind,” and other variations on that theme are much better for the marketing that maintains their employment.
By now it should be obvious that silencing all internal voices is a fairly drastic overreaction to a very limited problem. It is as if people said, “Some voices are troublesome, let’s eliminate them altogether, including the useful ones.” Some voices are indeed troublesome; what can we do to solve this problem without creating a much greater one?
If you have ever tried to stop a critical voice, you know that it is extremely difficult—if not impossible—to do. In fact, trying to get rid of it draws your attention to it even more, and results in making it more powerful, and your unpleasant response to it even stronger!
It works much better to make peace with a troublesome voice, and educate it, so that it speaks to you in ways that are more helpful and useful, becoming a friendly and supportive ally instead of a cruel tormentor. How to do that—in a variety of different ways—will be the subject matter of the chapters to follow.
(This is a draft of an early chapter of a book in progress.)
19 Responses
don
02|Dec|2008 1paradox- some of us have the innate intelligence to understand just what a paradox is and others like yourself do not.
You either “get” Tolle or you don’t. Millions of us have found his books wonderful learning tools.
From what I can discern, your problem is with your own petty ego mind. You first write this, “As I write this, Eckhart Tolle is making immense amounts of money promoting this”.
What logical point are you making with this statement about money. IE, making money at something means it must be flawed. Really? Tell that to Edison who invented the light bulb, lmao.
You conclude by of course showing to the world why you will never get it. You state, It works much better to make peace with a troublesome voice, and educate it.
Oh right, education is the solution. Again, LOL. Like all the Harvard PHD’s that got us into IRAQ, all the Wall Street Experts running the FED, and of course all the brilliant minds that have made everything today just so peachy keen. As the great philosopher Dr. Phil would say to you, GET REAL!
Don
Spring Green WI
Patrick
02|Dec|2008 2Dear Steve,
Your comments about an inner voice are interesting.
I think I’ve read just about everything Tolle has written, or said, and he certainly suggests that we eliminate the incessant inner chatter. But I’ve never heard him state dogmatically that we should have no inner dialogue, as a Rule. I believe he was only suggesting that we have a choice in the matter.
In interviews I’ve heard Tolle speak about preparing for talks, and the thought processes and mental preparation that goes into them. He said that it’s only natural to use one’s capability of thought in that way, but when thought is no longer needed, there is no need for self talk.
If “eliminating self-talk” were a concrete, black and white, dogmatic rule, Buddha, Jesus, and others, would have said nothing. Clearly they were pointing to an artful way of living, and not laying down a Regulation.
Tolle has suggested that inner dialog is a capacity, not a behavior. As a capacity we can use it, or not, develop it, or not. But in most people the inner voice is on autopilot and runs their lives, which turns the inner voice into a dysfunction.
In Jill Bolt Taylor’s story you correctly pointed out that if it weren’t for her inner voice she would have been in greater danger. Her situation required her inner voice to speak, so it did. But would her inner voice have needed to speak if there were no danger? No, it could enjoy resting in silence. And that is a wonderful thing too.
If you are writing a book that includes discussion on inner voices, there are many artful ways of presenting the topic. But I would caution you against categorizing Tolle, and others like him, as a group of dogmatic and narrow-minded hypocrites, because it would be inaccurate, and I think misses their point.
Sincerely,
Patrick
jasciu
03|Dec|2008 3How to Review a Book
First, read it.
Wesley
03|Dec|2008 4As a Zen practitioner since 1971, I’d like to second some of Patrick’s points. Zen students are encouraged to “quiet the mind” not silence it. And that means developing concentration through focus on the meditation practice. When the mind wanders because internal dialog, sensations, or images arise, one is instructed to simply notice and return to the practice.
I’ve met a number of enlightened people, none of whom are catatonic. The bliss and oneness described by those with brain damage may sound like the experiences of someone who has had an enlightenment experience, however those with brain damage lose the ability to function normally, while the enlightened show no such changes. The deeply enlightened who have integrated their insights into their daily lives do, however, tend to be more compassionate, and fully present, as well as demonstrating a less self centered way of relating to others.
Stopping all thoughts in meditation is called “dead sitting” in Zen, and is considered a sickness.
So, I’d encourage you to look beyond the superficial similarities of the descriptions of the brain damaged “bliss” or “nirvana” and the descriptions of enlightenment in all the great religious traditions before lumping them together. Stopping all internal voices is not their goal, and as you point out so eloquently, would certainly be crippling.
Turil
03|Dec|2008 5It’s not a black-or-white thing. Buddhism isn’t about permanently silencing the monkey mind, it is actually, just like NLP, about learning how to give yourself the CHOICE to silence the chatter or to let it rip. Once you’ve learned to turn it off, you have a new switch that can be really useful, and one in which you alone are in control of. Now isn’t that exactly what we want, more control, and more choices?
Hervé
03|Dec|2008 6Thanks for this post Steve, My discovery of NLP came through Tolle and the realization that one could run its own brain. This was an amazing discovery for me but somehow felt short. Since then, I fed myself with so much more in the various books from the NLP community which offer so many gifts. I am in the middle of the blind elephants and getting lots of pleasure from reading and trying. Thank you for sharing on paper.
Silencing voices can be fun.. Worth a try… How about changing the pitch, the melody, the speed, the rhythm.. Hey! these are my voices, and I can do whatever I want with them and just silencing them does not give me enough choices. In fact, I can even paint it blue, massage them softly and well tonight to get a glimpse of Tolle’s nirvana, I decide to experience my blue, soft caressing internal voice with the most sexy feminine tone that I can create
Hervé
03|Dec|2008 7Thanks for this post Steve, My discovery of NLP came through Tolle and the realization that one could run its own brain. This was an amazing discovery for me but somehow felt short. Since then, I fed myself with so much more in the various books from the NLP community which offer so many gifts. I am in the middle of the blind elephants and getting lots of pleasure from reading and trying. Thank you for sharing on paper.
Silencing voices can be fun.. Worth a try… How about changing the pitch, the melody, the speed, the rhythm.. Hey! these are my voices, and I can do whatever I want with them and just silencing them does not give me enough choices. In fact, I can even paint it blue, massage them softly and well tonight to get a glimpse of Tolle’s nirvana, I decide to experience my blue, soft caressing internal voice with the most sexy feminine tone that I can create
Kirk VandenBerghe
04|Dec|2008 8Excellent mind tilling material, Steve, as usual.
If asked to do so, most “voices” can identify themselves as “parts” (aka “subpersonalities”). Many of us have talked to hundreds–even thousands–of these parts, both within self and others. I see “them” as a reflection of our learning, much of it in early childhood. The “worse” a part, the more I’ve learned to build rapport with “it” by showing sincere respect, interest, and a willingness to learn together through dialogue. The “bad parts” are the ones my clients used to pinch on the ear and drag into my office, implicitly framing me as Vice Principal, the authoritarian disciplinarian. It was assumed I would get out my NLP/Hypnosis paddle and spank them into submission. I tried. The bad parts won. I gave up.
On the other side of surrendering in my attempt to remove disembodied voices or more fleshed out parts, I learned to collaborate with these outlaw aspects of being. As the “conscious mind” (also a “voice” or “part,” in my view) learned to stop dealing with self in violent ways (like trying to SHUT UP these reflections of past experiential learnings), a frame of curiosity, inquiry, partnership, and fresh co-learning always arose.
For me personally, all of the problematic “voices” mean well–that is, their “positive intention” is seeking a desired goal, relative to the contexts in which the perceptions were learned. I’ve found that these voices/parts are often rooted in fear-oriented worldviews established when I was quite young and needed protection.
These days, my relationship with my “problem parts” is playing the role of kind *and* firm parent, updating these echoes of the past about how I experience the world now, the capabilities that I’ve built, what I’ve learned to value, the myths upon which I’ve shone bright spotlights and chased away shadows… It’s taken longer than I expected to find…I’ll call it “peace”…but more-and-more I can sense a contentment within as I move through the world, commit to challenging goals, takes intelligent risks, and live day-to-day. My voices/parts are being re-parented, and “they” seem to be growing up, benefiting from the reframe of a happier and more wisely-mentored childhood.
I see two fundamental domains of thought on the planet: 1.) Power; 2.) Cooperation. Power seeks to create “peace” through domination, like bombing an adversary into submission. Cooperation seeks peace through dialogue and building bridges of shared values (beliefs about what is important).
If we attach emotion to the belief that “mind” is bad, or even unuseful, we simply spawn new parts (of mind, who paradoxically deny mind) that think “they” are more spiritual than the rest. If they build up some mass of thought-emotion, they can become quite elitist and unilateral. This is the power approach and creates more inner fractions.
As an alternative, we can learn to cooperate as a response to inner or outer conflict. It can be messy. It can take time. But in the end, nonviolent solutions create the possibility of true harmony. Nonviolence (removing and shutting up voices/parts) isn’t wimpy stuff; it’s powerful, but “power with,” not “power over.”
I would write more, but a part of me is tugging on my coattail. It’s reminding of that project that’s due a couple hours from now. And it’s no longer calls me a lazy flake. It’s more respectful now. Encouraging. This aspect of self–this “disciplined one”–reminds how good it feels when I’ve done my homework for the night. And it no longer speaks in that snotty, nagging, disgusted tone. It’s a positive, inspiration coach these days. Now THAT’S spiritual!
Patrick
06|Dec|2008 9At its core, Tolle’s teachings have nothing to do with inner voices, or subpersonalities, which are a natural part of our psychology. Tolle’s teachings are about an identity beyond the psychological make up of human nature, an identity in Being.
NLP and other therapies have offered many people useful perspectives and solutions to their psychological situations. In this regard NLP’s effectiveness has been well demonstrated. But when we are considering spiritual matters, such as Tolle does, it’s important to understand that Tolle is not talking about merely becoming a better, mentally well-balanced, human. He’s talking about transcending psychology altogether. If NLP can liberate a person to the point where they can step beyond the need for psychological therapeutic techniques, then that’s wonderful, a true blessing.
Kirk VandenBerghe
09|Dec|2008 10Patrick, it seems to me that you’re relegating NLP to a domain you label as “psychology” and a “therapy.” I see NLP as the study of subjective experience, including human experience that we believe “transcends psychology” and is “spiritual.” Long ago, in the wild days of the 1970′s and 1980′s the myriad techniques of NLP became mistaken AS NLP. The design think tank and associated factory that creates a car is not a car. NLP is not simply a collection of step-by-step personal transformation and therapy techniques. NLP is an inquiry into how we code our life experience. Some of these inquiries have resulted in famous outputs of concepts, skill-generating methods, and procedural techniques. Many were generated by the early developers and trainers.
Personally, I happen to think in terms of *being* a “soul” who exists beyond time and the space I label as my “body, mind, and emotions” while simultaneously inhabiting this body, including the fingers with which I’m using to type. Still, my notions of being, doing, having, body, mind, emotions, spirit, psychology, spiritual, past, present, future, now… they’re ALL coded neuro-linguistically–represented within my body. If one is experiencing “it” as a human, it’s neuro-linguistic and is coded in one’s body.
Your post above is neuro-linguistic. You’re showing us a portion of your map about maps. Nothing you represent cannot not be represented, and that is the domain of NLP, which covers everything… all human experience is the domain of NLP… including the times one’s mind is chattering away… to the opposite spectrum where attention is immersed is the bliss of infinite silence… Even the seemingly-eternal spaces of “being” are subjective experience, are coded neuro-linguistically, have structure, can be elicited and modeled, can be changed, and might even be useful to some.
Show me a sacred cow, and I’ll show you a code-deciphering opportunity.
Terry Netto
11|Dec|2008 11Hi Steve,
One way to judge a stimulating article is when it keeps playing in your head days after you read it. Your article matched that. Visited your blog for the first time a minute ago to see if anyone commented on the question that I had in mind: What about the teachings of the Buddha (and a host of other very wise and compassionate people) about meditation and silence? I think I have to agree with some of the posts above about having a choice to silence the mind when one chooses to. I’ve meditated for years but never quite got the hang of ‘really deep states’, I must say. Nonetheless, when I do spend time in certain quieter states, I almost always feel more peaceful and compassionate when I resume my ‘normal’ activities. I half-suspect you’ve had similar experiences, too, and am curious how you would code them?
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James
01|Aug|2009 13I notice that on the link you provide where we hear Jill talk about her experience, she seems, years after returning to “normal”, to be very much in favor of having access to that silent, expansive side of ourselves. In fact she talks ecstatically about it. I have seen, however, many accounts of those who have this experience talk about some difficulty re-establishing the ability to function in normal ways. It’s as if it takes a little time to adjust to the inner change. Then there seems to be a tendency for a kind of intelligent spontaneity to take over, as opposed to the old sense of trying to control things. Thought is still there, but at a lessened level, and when pragmatically required. It also comes more frequently from insight rather than association.
Alex
08|Oct|2009 14My understanding of Buddhist meditations that have anything to do with the constant chatter of thoughts is that NEVER does one deliberately silence the thoughts. I’ve heard this discouraged explicitly by accomplished Buddhist meditators and have never heard it advocated by any teachers that I trust. Attempting to silence the mind causes tension and anxiety, and as far as I’m aware is not possible to succeed in anyway.
The Buddhist meditations that involve relating to the chatter in any way are only focussed on being AWARE of the chatter and disassociating from it, ie. relating to it as an observer rather than identifying with it. There may certainly be people out there practising “silencing” their mind and calling it Buddhism, but I wouldn’t call it that. I would strongly advise against making this claim about Buddhism lest you lose a bunch of readers in the early chapters of your book.
chaya
10|Dec|2011 15Misleading. The lack of filtering Jill Bolton Taylor experienced was due to a stroke, not meditation. Most people cannot reduce that natural barrier with meditation without great effort. It is never for permanent, but quick excursions going and returning. Tolle’s calming the mind is not the same thing even as deep meditation.
chaya
10|Dec|2011 16One who thinks as an adult uses both sides of their brain — not just rational “think”, and not just intuitive “blank”. Thinking like a child is using just one or the other.
To be able to pray, connect to God, there must be enough stillness of the static/mental noise/chatter to hear the small quiet voice (not a literal voice as in Schizophrenia, an inner knowing). This is mastery, spiritual adulthood.
To be creative or inventive, the static is silenced enough to connect to Creativity. Music helps still some of this, meditation helps, prayer and study helps. Concentration required to draw an exact likeness stills some of the static. Concentration playing music, dancing, singing, painting, all do the same thing, allow the brain to concentrate and ignore some of the internal dialogue.
To not be able to do this one is more easily controlled, programmed, as they have no connection to anything else than what someone else tells or suggests to them.
Dan
24|Apr|2012 17I wonder how babies learn and operate, being that they are unable to have inner dialogue. Or even how any animal in this planet, for that matter, is able to move around without telling its self to. I understand the point you’re trying to make but using a person who was, severely, mentally injured may not have been such a great example… One thing im seriously confused about after having read this blog is what the uptime state really is? To my understanding it is a state of complete outward focus, without any internal dialogue or any other internal process for that matter. Honestly, I had the impression that the uptime/flow/know-nothing states that was mentioned in “Frogs into Princes” was what Tolle was talking about…
Steve Andreas
30|Apr|2012 18Dan,
You raise two different issues.
1. Historically, many people equated “thinking” with internal dialogue, but much of our thinking is in visual images, sounds, feelings, or some combination of those. Internal dialogue is not necessary to “thinking” and/or behaving in the moment, which most animals do quite nicely (and sometimes more effectively than humans do).
But dialogue sure is helpful to organizing and planning, which animals are not as good at. Language is a bit like a filing system or a search engine on the internet, that allows us to find what you need to know, and to release us from what used to be called “time bound” or “stimulus bound” behavior.
2. “Uptime” has never been carefully defined (and has been described differently by different people).
I equate it with the “flow state” of peak performance, when we are responding in the moment to sensory experience with appropriate action; everything is going well, and there is very little internal dialogue, or perhaps none at all, at least at times. Another way to describe it is that we are responding unconsciously to sensory cues with appropriate (or perhaps exemplary) behavior because our “intuitions” are very well-trained. This corresponds to Daniel Kahneman’s “system 1″ also described as “thinking fast,” when it has been honed by repeated experience with feedback.
Steve Andreas
Dan
01|May|2012 19Thank you Mr. Andreas that answers all my concerns!
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